Climate Talk Uganda With Josephine Karungi - Episodes Tagged with “Cop30”

Episode 39: What came out of COP30 for Uganda?

Josephine Karungi — Fri, 05 Dec 2025 00:15:00 +0200

So much stuff in this episode. Big stuff. Uganda is now co-chairing the Green Climate Fund: 'You can't be the one that is slaughtering a cow and then you don't give your family a big part of that cow.' Then there's the green list, the red list and the blue zone; the promised tripling of adaptation finance and the adaptation plan for Uganda. There's the fossil fuel roadmap that wasn't; a phased approach to a phase-out that won't; rich countries' double standards; the indigenous takeover of the conference and the Ugandan government lobbying to retain the use of fossil fuels.

Jackson Muhindo Rukara of OXFAM Uganda joins us with his personal reflections and big picture view of the negotiations and the politics.

If you'd like some good summaries of various aspects of COP30, go here:

From The Coversation: 'Petrostates-block-climate-deal-once-again-but-some-countries-are-taking-their-own-decisive-steps-to-phase-out-fossil-fuels'
https://theconversation.com/cop30-petrostates-block-climate-deal-once-again-but-some-countries-are-taking-their-own-decisive-steps-to-phase-out-fossil-fuels-270580

From Carbon Brief: 'Cop30 key outcomes agreed at the UN climate talks in Belem'
https://www.carbonbrief.org/cop30-key-outcomes-agreed-at-the-un-climate-talks-in-belem/

And also from Carbon Brief': 'Why COP30’s ‘tripling adaptation finance’ target is less ambitious than it seems'
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-why-cop30s-tripling-adaptation-finance-target-is-less-ambitious-than-it-seems/

And so, this episode brings to an end our special season focused on COP30. We hope you've found it as insightful and revealing as we have. It feels like we have a whole new understanding of the significance of the COP meetings, and how they actually work. Special thanks to all our guests who took time to speak with us.

We'll see for our next episode - a COP30-free zone. Until then, thanks for listening, and drop us a line any time - climatetalkpod@gmail.com

Josephine

Episode 38: COP30 and Uganda - 'The Sticky Reality of Climate Negotiations'

Josephine Karungi — Sat, 22 Nov 2025 05:00:00 +0200

Bart Dewaele is a General Director at Join For Water. Recorded on 21st November 2025, while negotiations at COP30 were still underway, he shares his clear-eyed reflections on how things were playing out. Touching on many of the key issues for Uganda including the Global Goals on Adaptation, water, finance and fossil fuels, his insights are thoughtful, articulate and - despite the setbacks - focused on positive outcomes. It's really a fascinating conversation that gives a real sense of what's been going on at COP30 and what it means.

COP30 details can be found here:
https://unfccc.int/cop30

Keep an ear out for future episodes when we'll be exploring what COP30 means for Uganda. And drop us a line any time at climatetalkpod@gmail.com if you'd like to suggest a topic for us to cover. Or even if you just want to offer us some feedback. Thanks for listening, and see you soon.

Josephine Karungi

Episode 37: COP30 and Uganda - Freshwater Resources and Climate Change

Josephine Karungi — Fri, 21 Nov 2025 13:00:00 +0200

The future of the world's freshwater resources in an unpredictably changing climate is a vital issue. Vanessa Thompson, Communication and Development Advisor for Join For Water, Africa, joins us to outline what we might expect from COP30. She also describes the work Join For Water is currently doing in Uganda, and why it matters.

You can find out more about the work of Join For Water here:

https://joinforwater.ngo/en/about/uganda/

And all the latest info from COP30 is here:

https://unfccc.int/cop30

Thanks for listening and see you soon.

Episode 36: COP30 and Uganda - 'The polluters must pay'

Josephine Karungi — Fri, 07 Nov 2025 14:00:00 +0200

As COP30 gets up to speed we're joined by Jackson Muhindo Rukara of OXFAM Uganda. Before he leaves for Belem on Friday 14th he gives us a rundown on the priorities for OXFAM and other African countries. With an over-arching emphasis on payments for loss and damage, he identifies the key objectives that can make this happen. Despite the difficluties, he's excited and optimistic about the possiblity for positive outcomes, and gives us a few examples of work now underway in Uganda as a result of previous COP meetings.

You can find a rundown of OXFAM's events and partner events here:
https://www.oxfam.org/en/oxfam-and-partners-cop30-featured-and-parallel-events

Climate Action Network Uganda which Jasckon spoke about is here:
https://can.ug/

And here's the official page for COP30:
https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/cop30

Keep an eye out for our ongoing episodes from COP over the next couple of weeks, and drop us a line anytime. climatetalkpod@gmail.com is where you'll find us. Thanks, and see you soon.

Episode 35: COP30 and Uganda - An Economist, A Journalist and A Civil Society Activist

Josephine Karungi — Wed, 05 Nov 2025 00:00:00 +0200

The first of a series of special episodes on the UN Conference of Parties in Brazil - COP30 - the world's biggest climate shindig. I mean conference. In this first episode we hear three perspectives on what it's like to go to a COP (70,000+ people went to the one last year in Baku...that's a lot of sandwiches...), what goes on there and why it matters.

Dr Francis Mwesigye is a Chief Economist at Uganda Development Bank; Andrew Aijuka is a journalist and multimedia producer with InfoNile; and Peninah Atwine of Environment Alert represents the collective interests of Ugandan civil society groups. Together they begin to paint a picture for us of this extraordinary annual gathering of world leaders, thought leaders and innovators; governments and non-governmental organisations; lobbyists, academics, chancers and pretty much every other specialism you can think of.

You can find out more about the Uganda Development Bank here:
https://www.udbl.co.ug/

Peninah Atwine is a Program Office for Environment Alert - you can find out more about that organisation's work here:
https://envalert.org

Thanks to our guests on this episode - do get in touch if there's something to do with COP that you've always wanted to ask.

climatetalkpod@gmail.com

And thanks. See you next time.